Not so with this pair. I ordered my usual size for the 512s, and I couldn't get them closed at all. Not sure if it's t he straight leg style that runs small, or the black color, or both. I wish I could comment more about them - they seemed really nice in style and color - but obviously I didn't wear them at all.
I had to return them, and I've been hesitant to reorder, even in the next larger size.
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